Discussion:
[schooltool] Re: information about schoolBell
Marius Gedminas
2006-12-27 14:38:51 UTC
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Hello,
Dear sir
I am involving in localization of schooltool,schoolBell,CanDo . so i
need help from yourside. how can i start to localize schoolBell in
Nepali language.
I'm not entirely sure. I am not actively involved in
SchoolTool/SchoolBell these days. I'm pretty sure translations are done
via Rosetta (https://launchpad.net/rosetta).

You'd get a better chance asking on the mailing list
(***@schooltool.org), or try to find th1a on #schooltool on
irc.freenode.net (US hours).
there is problem to run schoolBell and schooltool simultaneously.
As far as I know, SchoolBell is likely to be discontinued.

HTH,
Marius Gedminas
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Gerhard Schneider
2006-12-27 15:22:13 UTC
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Post by Marius Gedminas
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As far as I know, SchoolBell is likely to be discontinued.
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Any comments on that?

Good time to look for another web calendar program or will there be a
switch to turn off parts of schooltool to make it look like schoolbell
(no software changes required - with the exception of commenting out
parts of the user interface code :-) ?

GS

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Gerhard Schneider
Institute of Lightweight Design and e-Mail:***@ilsb.tuwien.ac.at
Structural Biomechanics (E317) Tel.: +43 1 58801 31716
Vienna University of Technology / Austria Fax: +43 1 58801 31799
A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 27-29 http://www.ilsb.tuwien.ac.at/~gs/

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Marius Gedminas
2006-12-27 17:38:56 UTC
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Post by Gerhard Schneider
Post by Marius Gedminas
As far as I know, SchoolBell is likely to be discontinued.
Any comments on that?
The original purpose of SchoolBell was to fill the then-empty
web-based calendaring app niche and attract volunteer developers.

Since the last release, SchoolTool underwent some internal code rewrites
that left SchoolBell broken. More immediate priorities require
contracted developers to continue work on SchoolTool, and the expected
volunteers never materialized, so there's no one who can work on fixing
SchoolBell right now.
Post by Gerhard Schneider
Good time to look for another web calendar program
Maybe.
Post by Gerhard Schneider
or will there be a
switch to turn off parts of schooltool to make it look like schoolbell
(no software changes required - with the exception of commenting out
parts of the user interface code :-) ?
That's was the idea, more or less, but someone has to step up and
actualy do the commenting out.

Cheers,
Marius Gedminas
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Ignas Mikalajunas
2006-12-27 20:12:49 UTC
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Post by Marius Gedminas
Post by Gerhard Schneider
or will there be a
switch to turn off parts of schooltool to make it look like schoolbell
(no software changes required - with the exception of commenting out
parts of the user interface code :-) ?
That's was the idea, more or less, but someone has to step up and
actualy do the commenting out.
Commenting out is the easy part (been there done that, diff is like
20-40 lines) making tests pass, polishing stuff, being sure it works,
packaging everything, maintaining backwards compatibility is the
difficult part.

Ignas
Gerhard Schneider
2006-12-28 07:39:35 UTC
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Post by Ignas Mikalajunas
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Commenting out is the easy part (been there done that, diff is like
20-40 lines) making tests pass, polishing stuff, being sure it works,
packaging everything, maintaining backwards compatibility is the
difficult part.
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The database is NOT backwards compatible - that's clear (schoolbell is
NOT schooltool and there is no need for it - it's better to keep the
code base and sacrifice a few unused database entries) but you can
easily transfer the calendar data by curl-ing out and in the ics
files... (as EVERYBODY will do for regular backups of individual
calendar data - as I expect?).

GS

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Gerhard Schneider
Institute of Lightweight Design and e-Mail:***@ilsb.tuwien.ac.at
Structural Biomechanics (E317) Tel.: +43 1 58801 31716
Vienna University of Technology / Austria Fax: +43 1 58801 31799
A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 27-29 http://www.ilsb.tuwien.ac.at/~gs/

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Ignas Mikalajunas
2006-12-28 12:31:37 UTC
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Post by Gerhard Schneider
Post by Ignas Mikalajunas
Commenting out is the easy part (been there done that, diff is like
20-40 lines) making tests pass, polishing stuff, being sure it works,
packaging everything, maintaining backwards compatibility is the
difficult part.
The database is NOT backwards compatible - that's clear (schoolbell is
NOT schooltool and there is no need for it - it's better to keep the
code base and sacrifice a few unused database entries) but you can
easily transfer the calendar data by curl-ing out and in the ics
files... (as EVERYBODY will do for regular backups of individual
calendar data - as I expect?).
You asked for it :)

Follow instructions on

http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/your-development-environment/

but instead of http://source.schooltool.org/svn/trunk/schooltool use
http://source.schooltool.org/svn/branches/schoolbell2006

and voila - you will get your own schoolbell. This is not a release,
it's not stable, i am doing this to prove that it's possible and
because i am in a good mood so use with extreme caution :)

Happy holidays!

Ignas Mikalaj?nas
Brian Sutherland
2007-01-03 12:49:36 UTC
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Post by Marius Gedminas
Hello,
Dear sir
I am involving in localization of schooltool,schoolBell,CanDo . so i
need help from yourside. how can i start to localize schoolBell in
Nepali language.
I believe (and I may be wrong), that translations are performed through
rosetta for the development version of schooltool can always be
translated at:

https://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/main/+pots/schooltool

But beware, this attempts to follow the schooltool trunk and will often
be out of date. We need stable releases for stable translations.

Because these translations are based on the current trunk, you should
use the current trunk from subversion to test them. There is a howto to
get this setup at:

http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server

Finally, you will need to download the translations from launchpad.
There are some helper Makefile rules to do help with this. The full
documentation is in the makefile, but can be boiled down to:

1. download tarball of schooltool .po files to the top level of the
subversion checkout
2. rename the tarball to rosetta-schooltool.tar.gz
3. run 'make update-rosetta-translations'
4. run 'make update-translations'

Hope this helps.
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Brian Sutherland

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And she's EVIL!!"
Mark Shuttleworth
2007-01-11 17:01:28 UTC
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